Owari no Seraph – 12 [END]

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The loli is not amused

 Ah, Krul doesn’t even have to say anything and she is still a highlight of the episode. Anyways, Owari no Seraph is over for now but Mika and Yuu’s forbidden bromance is eternal. Actually, I spent the last few episodes pretending that this was a harem anime. It made things way more entertaining than it should have.

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Yuu seems to have taken the fact that Mika is a vampire rather well. Maybe Yuu has changed for the better, since he was pretty concerned with his team mates. Though it’s probably more because of the relief that Mika is alive after all of these years. Still, there was little to no anger on Yuu’s part on the fact that Mika is the exact same thing that Yuu hated without exception and who he wanted to massacre. It probably hasn’t quite sunk in yet, but Yuu is going to be faced with more than a few problems considering that Mika seems to hate humans and doesn’t seem to have any intentions on letting Yuu live with his new friends peacefully. It would be a different scenario if Mika didn’t want to be with the vampires, since I’m sure Yuu could make an exception in his revenge just for Mika, but it’s probably going to be different if Mika is trying to kill all of Yuu’s friends. Both of them want to save each other, but there’s going to be conflict there, since neither of them want to be saved.

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…OH and I guess Shinoa has become interested in Yuu because I don’t think BL normally happens in shounen. Which is too bad, because Mika and Yuu seem to have something special, but oh well. Who knows when or how Shinoa even fell for Yuu, since she seemed to think he was an idiot for a while, but I guess that reckless, rule-breaking personality is attractive to some people. Plus she hugged Yuu into submission in his moment of need when his powers were going out of control, so by shounen rules, they’re probably practically married now.

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This war kind of seems pointless though now that more plot points are in perspective. The vampires are fighting the humans because they’re worried that the humans are researching world-ending magic, but the humans seem to be researching it for the purpose of defeating the vampires. Maybe the humans were doing something else too if they caused the apocalypse, but it seems like they’re continuing research now mainly towards killing vampires (hence giving Yuu those drugs to fight them).

Though the plot twist with Ferid was pretty interesting. Assuming that the person he met up with was human, this war is going to get even more interesting since Ferid’s aims don’t seem to be solely focused on defeating the humans. Guren has also always been pretty interesting as a character, but him delving into research that may or may not be harmful to Yuu (…or the world itself, apparently) definitely raises the question as to why he’s so desperate. Sure, the vampires are pretty OP, but if the Seraph of the End is really that dangerous, why is he pushing things so far? I guess we’ll have to wait until S2.

The first season definitely seems to have ended at an appropriate place. Though as for the story itself, it’s been alright. Yuu still seems to be progressing just because the plot needs to move forward as opposed to him really learning things. Or he just conveniently learns things for a bit, but forgets them when the plot decides it needs him to do something reckless again, but it doesn’t matter much because he preforms a miracle anyways. But that’s been an issue from the start. Though on the other hand, one of the complaints I had at the beginnings about the vampires being easy to beat was addressed. It seems like it’s all or nothing with them in terms of power level. Either they’re near impossible to kill like the nobles, or they’re just generic henchmen that are really easily disposed of. The nobles are still not really “scary”, but they now make the threat of death seem real (or at least they would if they actually felt like killing main characters instead of conveniently letting them live every single fight).

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What many, many people have wondered throughout the season.

So now that the setting has been established, maybe the second season will take off and go places no one imagined. I wasn’t overly impressed with this season, since it gave Yuu a free pass to just about everything. The story was pretty typical too, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. A lot of the characters (Shinoa, Guren, etc) were really entertaining. However, the stereotypical-ness combined with how it pretended that there were consequences to things only to have Yuu bypass all of them made the show feel like it was lacking. Though again, now with the addition of vampires that actually pose a threat, maybe the struggle the characters face will feel more real. Maybe this season was just to show off the basic foundation of the world (like people say what the school part was for) and things will get deeper from S2 onwards. Really, the plot could go many places from here.

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54 Responses to “Owari no Seraph – 12 [END]”

  1. Hoshi says:

    ~I actually like Owari; though I ended up ditching the anime to read the manga because it wasn’t going fast enough for me. I dig the demon powers thing and their neat-looking weapons, even if they sprung it on his all of a sudden at the start of the season (though from what I read in the author’s (??) comments in the manga they purposely held back that information to progress the main story first). I also like the style/art/animation of Owari, which is what probably keeps me coming back to this series.

    I can not tell how disappointed I am that Shinoa is starting to have ~feelings~ for Yuu. COME ON SHINOA YOU CANT FALL FOR A SCRUB LIKE HIM…Either way she’s probably my ONLY favorite character on this show.

    Unfortunately the majority of the male characters are just so stubbornly stuck in these typical shounen character roles that it makes them kind of annoying to watch, and even harder to like. So I hope they end up getting SOME kind of character development because it’s TOO MUCH. I can deal with typical shounen characters, but there’s a line; even the most cliche characters go through some kind of change. I’ll still dislike Yuu either way though (LOL) I even have to put post-it notes over his face in the manga because I just get so irritated.

    • Karakuri says:

      As of the end of this season, I’m pretty neutral about it. There are things I like, and things I don’t like. I do like the concept of demon weapons too though, and that’s interesting about the author. I guess he made the right choice there, since I don’t think learning more about the weapons there and then would have made me any more interested in the story.

      AHHH ME TOO. Shinoa deserves much better. …Or at least she could have waited until Yuu gets his act together (more so than he has it now at least).

      Ah, yeah that seems to be the case. I do like Guren, but that’s probably because I feel an odd sense of joy when he does things like kick Yuu across the room. I also rather liked how he handled Shinoa back when she was questioning him since it was really true that should wouldn’t have accepted either answer. Hahaha I understand your feelings about Yuu completely xD

  2. zztop says:

    …but Mika and Yuu’s forbidden bromance is eternal.

    The very loyal and talented fanartists of Pixiv are behind you on that all the way!! \^_^/

    Maybe the humans were doing something else too if they caused the apocalypse.

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    • Karakuri says:

      The very loyal and talented fanartists of Pixiv are behind you on that all the way!! \^_^/

      Ah, I knew I was right to put my faith in them. Pixiv rarely lets me down.

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      • BlackBriar says:

        Hey Kara, here’s a little insight.

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        • zztop says:

          Here’s another insight too.

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          • BlackBriar says:

            Hmm… I’m half aware of what you’ve said. That would be the part on the father.

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  3. Di Gi Kazune says:

    Now I am tempted to order a dakimakura of that pouty LOLi-vampire.

    *puts reservation rights on LOLi-vampire!*

    • BlackBriar says:

      Odds are that you’re part of a line.

    • Karakuri says:

      …I might have to fight you for those rights. Especially since Shinoa lost points from me for falling for Yuu.

      • BlackBriar says:

        Come on. Just for that? Besides, Guren has been practically shipping them throughout the show. Before Shinoa was able to calm Yuu down after his transformation, he said “Shinoa. You have to do something”.

        • Karakuri says:

          Her blushing for a lot of the episode was kind of a step down from how she normally acts…

          • BlackBriar says:

            She had a brush with death so her perception has slightly changed but she won’t admit it because it’s not part of her usual self. A very human thing if you ask me.

        • Di Gi Kazune says:

          She reminds me of Pest from Mondaiji. :3 I like cute pouty LOLis like that. :3

  4. zztop says:

    I think Ferid’s a real biatch for trying to have Mika to himself…(; ・`д・´)

    • BlackBriar says:

      To my surprise over the past few weeks, I’ve noticed Ferid’s been generating fans for himself. There’s even a fan club created after him on MAL.

  5. BlackBriar says:

    Actually, I spent the last few episodes pretending that this was a harem anime. It made things way more entertaining than it should have.

    I honestly can’t even begin to understand how were able to see that. 😛

    As expected, the first cour ended where I thought it would. An appropriate stopping spot showing how close the 5 main leads are getting and leaving behind events that raise some good questions. If anyone’s wondering, the 12th episode covered the end of chapter 15 of the manga if inclined to read on.

    What’s on my mind is how the second cour for Fall 2015 will be handled. Curiosity that sprang up regardless of already knowing the adaptation is in good hands after nice pieces of information from an article: Seraph of the End’s Additional Cast, Creator’s Direct Involvement Revealed

    There are still chapters 16-34 left to animate. That’s a bit of a stretch. Not to mention already having said the anime will go into events not yet in the manga:

    ”The website also announced that the original manga’s writer, Takaya Kagami, is personally drafting the original story for story episodes not yet serialized in the manga version. He is also supervising all aspects of the scripts until the anime’s 24th and final episode.”

    Tough to imagine unless by time the second half comes, there’ll be enough chapters for page by page adapting like the first.

    I’m surprised you didn’t give a lot of focus on Shinoa during the review what with a certain piece of information showed before she found Guren. How she declined promotions and stayed a sergeant to avoid getting involved in her family’s power struggles for which she puts the blame on what happened to her sister. That coupled with another soon-to-be-addressed aspect is why Shinoa is the Hiragi family’s black sheep.

    Assuming that the person he met up with was human, this war is going to get even more interesting since Ferid’s aims don’t seem to be solely focused on defeating the humans.

    The one Ferid met with outside during the final scene is definitely human, hence his sentence:

    “As always, you humans’ lust is getting out of control, and us vampires are so arrogant that we take everything too lightly”

    Half my money is on Guren when looking back at his shady acts during the series. In episode 3, Yuu said he’s never at his station when he wants to talk. Episode 4, Shinoa pointed out he’s rarely around to act as his training class’ supervising teacher. In episode 5, he disappeared for 10 days before authorizing Yuu to get a Cursed Gear and did it again before actually letting him get one as Kimizuki pointed out while asking him questions:

    “Lieutenant Colonel Ichinose, please explain. Why did you abandon your class and disappear for over 10 days?”

    Not to mention the time Yuu confronted him about the Cursed Gear after Guren ditched the war meeting with his condescending superiors in episode 5, Guren was monologuing he doesn’t want Yuu hanging around long enough to attract the Hiragi family’s attention.

    The other half of my money is on another character but I won’t elaborate until the second cour comes and a few things get shown.

    As a lead, Yuu is more than good enough. He’s an idiot at times but a likable, tsundere one with a lot of heart who’s grown to let others in after suffering an overwhelming trauma. He has faults but doesn’t dwell on them and doesn’t lose his nerve when things get tough. If you think it’s going to get any easier for him, best to change that line of thinking. He’ll have a rough start once he leaves that hospital room.

    From print to production, with a few welcomed anime-original added scenes and minor changes, this adaptation is 95% accurate. It gets a 8.5/10 from me. More than pleasing enough to let a few things slide because I’ve seen an adaptation handled way worse. SHAFT helming “Dance in the Vampire Bund” being the prime example. My only gripe was the animation being an on and off matter. Besides that, everything was fairly alright.

    Overall, this was my top favorite anime for the season. Enjoyed it so much all the episodes felt 5 minutes long despite already having read the source material. My Seraph Saturdays for Spring are done so it’s time once again to play the dreaded waiting game. Until October, Seraph!

    • Karakuri says:

      I honestly can’t even begin to understand how were able to see that.

      Oh, easily. And I’m obviously not just talking about Shinoa and Mitsu xD

      Interesting about the author’s involvement. It will be interesting to see where this ends up then! Though then again, I haven’t touched the manga yet, aside from the first 2 chapters or so, so I don’t know where the story is going in general.

      I guess it didn’t really register as new news in my mind. I accidentally spoiled myself a while ago by reading a summary of what happened with Mahiru, so I already knew too much about the Hiiragi family xD

      Ah, you know, I thought it might have been Guren too. It seemed like Ferid and whoever it was were familiar with each other and Guren seems like he wouldn’t have any problems pretend fighting someone he was secretly working with and Guren’s personality is probably good at hiding things behind it in general. Plus why would Ferid meet a vampire above ground instead of the fancy vampire place they live in.

      I’ll admit, I dislike Yuu a lot less than I dislike protagonists that sit around helpless and wondering what to do. That’s all I’ll say about that though.

      Haha it’s definitely a better adaptation. Unlike StB, they gave all of the information about how the world worked and I wasn’t sitting there wondering if the characters were just making up magic as they went. Though I guess that the difference of trying to animate a manga as opposed to a LN. Hopefully the wait isn’t too hard for you!

  6. BlackBriar says:

    The nobles are still not really “scary”, but they now make the threat of death seem real (or at least they would if they actually felt like killing main characters instead of conveniently letting them live every single fight).

    Letting them live was part of their plan. In episode 11, Ferid decided to take the Vampire Extermination Unit alive and turn them into livestock. That’s why Yuu’s unit was attacked by Crowley and his girls to weaken them by drinking their blood. An opportunity they fully took advantage of since it’s forbidden by their laws to drink blood directly from a human. A law Ferid, himself, was breaking in secret before slaughtering the other orphans.

    • Karakuri says:

      I suppose, but I meant convenient for the plot (and Yuu I guess, since Mitsu’s team died horribly in very similar circumstances; though obviously not by vampires). If the nobles actually wanted to kill everyone, they could have done it no problem. It’s just that we knew they weren’t going to die because Yuu hadn’t learned everything he needed to to fight them yet.

      • BlackBriar says:

        The plot is like that because what’s currently going on is a means to an end.

    • IreneSharda says:

      Letting them live might be a nice explanation, but it does nothing for the plot but slow it down. And if they were purposefully doing that, they needed to say or show that in the series. It didn’t come across to me as anything other than the vampires are pretty pathetic when it comes to anime vampires. Maybe it worked better in the manga, but seeing it anime only, I really do wish that the vampire were for powerful and interesting and that some major characters had died.

      • BlackBriar says:

        And if they were purposefully doing that, they needed to say or show that in the series.

        Ferid did say it. He spoke to Crowley about it before acting. Taking the Vampire Extermination Unit alive, calling it “Operation Livestock”. That was before Mika took Yuu and ran off to the top of that gas station before Yuu saw his friends being bitten.

        • IreneSharda says:

          They needed to show it more forcefully and more than once. That was pretty much a throwaway line as far as I was concerned because 1) It was Ferid and I can’t listen or believe every flamboyant thing he says. And 2) They didn’t stress it enough for me to notice it.

          What they really should have done was actively show the vampires holding back, but also show them making and attempt. They just standing their and talking about how strong they are and how weak humans are does them no favors.

          I know their vampires, and maybe they came off more awesome in the manga, but thus far they have just been weak and lackluster for me. Even the ones from Blood Lad had a lot for bite to them. Pun intended.

          Also, I think them not killing anyone for the sake of “livestock”, was just the author’s excuse that he didn’t want to kill anyone yet, and yet wanted a big action scene. They can’t keep doing that, or else there will eventually feel as if there are no stakes in this series. They can say the world is doomed all they want, but unless we, the audience, can feel it. It means nothing.

          • BlackBriar says:

            Saying it once is more than enough. You’ve just got to pay attention.

            It was Ferid and I can’t listen or believe every flamboyant thing he says.

            Remember that Krul doesn’t trust him either. He’s aware of her secret and tried to sell her out so she moved to shut him up on pain of death.

            Even the ones from Blood Lad had a lot for bite to them. Pun intended.

            Um, I hardly agree with you on that one. The only ones that fit the bill for me were Staz’s brother and sister. Staz himself? 90% of the time, I had to put effort into reminding myself that he was vampire, which is not a good sign. Because he always seemed like some other creature to me.

            They can say the world is doomed all they want, but unless we, the audience, can feel it. It means nothing.

            That depends on who you ask. I doubt humans would resort using to demon power imbued weapons if they weren’t desperate.

          • skylion says:

            It’s bad writing pure and simple. Any payoff in the future comes from a bankrupt first cour. I’ve read bout 15 chapters of the manga, and I’m thinking that maybe they should have kicked the mangka off the production and showed him how to tell a simple story…

            • Di Gi Kazune says:

              I say it’s all this ridiculous nonsense about 13 episode seasons that is causing writing anguish. When you have to conclude something in 13 episodes rather than 26, you have to start squeezing things here and there. I will use UBW as an example because they stuffed much into the first 13 episodes so that it would end on a cliffhanger rather than a talking heads episode.

            • skylion says:

              …and yet other’s see 12/13 episode cour as a blessing and are able to bring all guns to bear, so to speak.

            • skylion says:

              …and yet other’s see 12/13 episode cour as a blessing and are able to bring all guns to bear, so to speak. I’ll amend my statement and say that the manga was a bit too slow on it’s burn, but fairly well done in most respects. But that’s reading…Television requires more immediacy. They should have redrafted the story to fit the medium; which is, I realize, an unconventional approach in a very conventional field.

            • BlackBriar says:

              It’s the mangaka’s creation so all decisions belong to him, no matter where they go. If the one who creates it doesn’t take control, then what’s the point? The whole thing would end up being meaningless. And like I said before, an anime or manga doesn’t have to be a masterpiece to be good or at least liked.

            • skylion says:

              I never said I wanted a masterpiece. But I expect competency…of which this storyteller lacks (at least in this story). This is lazy, paint by numbers and copy pasta level stuff that got shoehorned into a good idea.

            • BlackBriar says:

              That’s a point of view, particularly yours, a debatable one that remains to be seen. Because it has a solid enough fan base for a work that began in 2012 and the manga is apparently doing well for itself.

              New York Times Manga Best Seller List, June 14-20

              3rd place: Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign #5
              7th place: Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign #1

            • skylion says:

              …you can trot out even more numbers…that just shows me that more people like being pandered to in the lowest common demoninator….a trait shared by even moe shows. So yeah…..Owari is just like a moe show….

            • BlackBriar says:

              Once again, friend, that’s your opinion. Different strokes for different folks.

            • skylion says:

              I just compared Owari to Kiniro Mosaic, and this is the response I get!? 🙂

              Indeed. We have to like what we like…

  7. skylion says:

    The loli is not amused

    …as is the LOLi Defender…

    All in all, I thought the show had a marvelous idea and a chilling theme. It was some big ideas worthy of being played with. But poor execution of the basic of storytelling principles doomed it from the beginning.

    With flat characters on the human side, I didn’t feel the slightest bit of tension. They just troped their way across a fairly wooden script. On the vampire side, we had chuunibyou style named characters that did little more than pose and preen, and on occasion drink some blood to remind themselves of what they were. Add to that the clumsy military, along with over-used plot elements and you have a show that just didn’t make a good practice to run the distance.

    Shame, really. I have a soft spot in my heart for both Krul and Shinoa, but without anything more than that I don’t really have faith in the studio’s capacity here that would make me subscribe to the second outing…

    • Karakuri says:

      Yeah, I kind of felt like Krul at some points. I’m still holding out for the story to decide where it’s going with everything, since this all seemed like set up. But as for the first season, I agree with what you said.

  8. Overcooled says:

    I ended up marathoning the second half because I fell behind out of total disinterest. I managed to finish it and overall thought it was…okay? My biggest issues was what you already pointed out: that Yuu does whatever he wants and breaks rules without being punished. That combined with a shoehorned SCHOOL arc, tropes out the wazoo, and the story just devolving into random battles just made the series really bland.

    Shinoa was awesome though!

    • Karakuri says:

      Haha I’m not surprised. Shinoa was awesome! ….Also, it definitely gets better if you just think of all of the characters being part of Yuu’s harem if you’re going to bother with the second season. It shouldn’t be too hard with Mika at least.

  9. IreneSharda says:

    The finale was pretty calm and a little anti-climatic, but I liked it. Yuu seems to have calmed down more and more ever since they finally left that unneeded school arc. I liked his reunion with Mika, and I’m sorry Shinoa, while you gained some major points with me in that scene regarding your possible attraction to Yuu, I’m afraid Yuu’s heart already belongs to another. 😛

    I practically want to shout when they did that reflection scene. “Would you two just kiss already?!” The barely veiled subtext is barely veiled…

    As for Ferid being in connection with the humans? Not surprised. I’m actually surprised it took them this long to reveal it. And I’m pretty positive it’s not Guren that he’s talking too. (Unless the show’s writing takes an extreme turn for the worse.) It’s always the least suspected person, and they were doing their utmost to set up Guren as the traitor, which in my mind, pretty much excludes him. He’s a red herring. If I were to put money on it, I’m thinking perhaps one of Shinoa’s family. They’re held in such esteem in the army, it would be about right that one of them or more would be a traitor.

    I honestly don’t care at this point if the vampires or the humans win. Both side have not really made an impression and have fallen out of favor with me. My one reason for watching is Yu and Mika and seeing how their relationship all plays out. Yu’s posse are a little interesting too, but mostly just Yu and Mika.

    • BlackBriar says:

      It’s always the least suspected person, and they were doing their utmost to set up Guren as the traitor, which in my mind, pretty much excludes him.

      That’s why I said above that half my money is on Guren being Ferid’s partner.

  10. IreneSharda says:

    Yuu seems to have taken the fact that Mika is a vampire rather well. Maybe Yuu has changed for the better, since he was pretty concerned with his team mates. Though it’s probably more because of the relief that Mika is alive after all of these years. Still, there was little to no anger on Yuu’s part on the fact that Mika is the exact same thing that Yuu hated without exception and who he wanted to massacre. It probably hasn’t quite sunk in yet, but Yuu is going to be faced with more than a few problems considering that Mika seems to hate humans and doesn’t seem to have any intentions on letting Yuu live with his new friends peacefully. It would be a different scenario if Mika didn’t want to be with the vampires, since I’m sure Yuu could make an exception in his revenge just for Mika, but it’s probably going to be different if Mika is trying to kill all of Yuu’s friends. Both of them want to save each other, but there’s going to be conflict there, since neither of them want to be saved.

    I kind of see it as Yu having horrible survivor’s guilt, especially with Mika, since the boy sacrifice everything to help him gain his freedom. Now that Mika is alive, it’s lifted a huge weight off his chest that he’s carried for 8 years. It’s not about what Mika is, Mika is in a different category from everyone else. To him, it’s no longer about human or vampire, Mika is just Mika. He’s simply happy he’s alive. And I think that Yu will probably take the Naruto approach, that no matter what Mika does, he will still go out of his way to help him so that they can be friends again.

    As for Mika’s case, I honestly don’t think he’s on anyone’s side other than Yu’s. He’s a vampire in body, somewhat human in mind, but he’s on neither side as Ferid pointed out. His main goal is completely in saving Yu. He’s always put his family before himself, and while it’s obvious that he has been lonely and suffering throughout the series, Yu has kept him going. He hates the humans because of what they’ve done to Yu, and he can now effectively think of humans as “other”. Yet, vampires are in a way “other” as well. He hates them just as much, and thus hates himself. He suspects Yu’s friends are using him, because there ARE humans that are using him, he just doesn’t know which ones. Mika doesn’t seem concerned with the vampire’s cause or the humans, he really just wants to get Yu and get away from everything, which was what he proposed in the penultimate episode. Yu, I’m not sure about. I think he would fight for humanity, but now that Mika’s back on the scene, his field of vision has drastically narrowed with one goal in mind.

    In the end, I’m thinking that a third faction may arise as often does in these tales were both sides are so grey. Mika and Yu will eventually join forces along with the rest of Yu’s friends and maybe a few others, to perhaps free the world from both sides? I’m not sure how this will play out, but the show has heavy shounen overtones, so it has to have a formula that it’s following.

    • BlackBriar says:

      And I think that Yu will probably take the Naruto approach, that no matter what Mika does, he will still go out of his way to help him so that they can be friends again.

      That’s not a scenario I’m picturing as plausible. Mika basically suspects every human of using Yuu. So he’s going to be irrational and probably won’t listen to anything because in his mind, Yuu is being tricked and what he’s doing is the right thing. If worse comes to worst, there’s a chance he might kill one of Yuu’s new friends and that might cause a serious fissure in their friendship.

      Right now, Yuu’s got a nail in his coffin to soon deal with. I’ll be vague in my explanation. He’s fighting for the Japanese Imperial Demon Army, the human side. How do you think things are going to look for him when people have clearly seen he personally knows someone who is supposed to be the enemy?

      • IreneSharda says:

        It doesn’t matter. This series is overflowing with shounen tropes and cliches. Everything goes right for Yu eventually. Even if something happens, Yu and Mika will eventually be friends and together again, the entire crux of the series is built on their relationship. And what you’re alluding only makes me think my theories are even more true. Mika not really caring for the vampire side, Yuu having made enemies of the human side? Yeah, the whole third faction thing sounds more and more like the direction they’ll go eventually.

        • BlackBriar says:

          Yeah, the whole third faction thing sounds more and more like the direction they’ll go eventually.

          I can tell you this much. I’m up to the most recent chapter of the manga, chapter 34, and there’s no sign of a third faction in sight.

          • IreneSharda says:

            Give it time. It usually doesn’t occur until the third act of a series anyway.

            • BlackBriar says:

              When the 12th episode of the anime has closed on the end of the 15th manga chapter… Yeah, I’m going to hold my breath on that.

          • IreneSharda says:

            Having now read up to chapter 34 myself, I’m going to amend a few theories:

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            • BlackBriar says:

              Having now read up to chapter 34 myself

              I’m pretty sure you saw things happening in ways you weren’t expecting. Am I right?

              What I was aiming to do when passing the manga around to certain people during Winter 2015 was to give them an early look at the story. Because knowing WIT studio and the story pacing, it would’ve taken some time for things to get good. I’m completely in the dark about Kyokai, I know Overcooled has read some of it and Karakuri said she read the first two chapters.

              Your case was completely hindered when you saw the anime information while trying to remember the story’s title.

              Side note: What did you think of Chess Belle as she was munching away at that human soldier she caught in chapter 29? For some reason, I really liked that part. She’s the same one who pinned Mitsuba down and fed on her before Yuu transformed.

            • IreneSharda says:

              Well it wasn’t too different. The family I thought was scum end up mostly being scum.Vampires are a little better though I gravitate more towards the male ones than the female. Ferid isn’t as grating though he is a piece of work. Crowley is better too. Mika is still the most interesting among them since he straddles this line between the two sides. He’s honestly stuck in a worse situation than Yu. Without a home and without freedom, no friends and his only family is in danger. Show ▼

        • skylion says:

          Tropes are recognizable tools. Any creator is free to use them. But they become much more effective when a creator spins them and makes the trope his/her own.

          What gets me is that I didn’t get one hint that Owari cared to do that…That’s when they become cliche. And this show was a rain of frogs over Chiche Town…

      • IreneSharda says:

        Also notice the Naruto vibes.

        It’s so similar.

        • BlackBriar says:

          You said it yourself, it’s shounen tropes. Only I don’t see things happening the exact same way.

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