Owari no Seraph 09-11
That awkward moment when your current boyfriend and ex accidentally meet.
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Things got pretty serious pretty quickly in the past couple of episodes. But hey, at least we now know what the title means. |
Yuu totally disregarded orders from Shinoa again, and this time it really seemed like he should have followed them for the good of the army. Honestly, if he had gotten to Guren minutes earlier, Yuu probably wouldn’t have had the shock of stabbing his former best friend. I guess this is one of those times where Yuu decides to choose his friends over his desire for revenge against any and all vampires. Though at least the plot has a better reason this time to have Yuu run off on his own. This was most likely to put off Mika and Yuu meeting and to have the dramatic moment with Guren and Mika being stabbed. Plus this also paid off later when Yuu put his friends first and retreated instead of just running off and doing his own thing like alwa- oh, wait. He went off on his own to try and kill Ferid.
At least there seemed to actually be consequences for Yuu’s actions this time. The vampires probably wouldn’t have let them go without a fight anyways, but Yuu surely hindered everyone by breaking formation or something. Yes, he probably hates Ferid, but there didn’t seem to be much consistency between “I’m going to disobey orders to save my friends over killing the main vampires” and “I’m going to disobey orders to kill this main vampire over keeping my friends safe” other than Yuu just disobeying orders. At least consistency kind of returned when he was faced with the choice between his friends and wherever Mika wanted to take him.
Funny enough, Mika seems just like Yuu in terms of following orders. He seemed to disregard pretty much everything Ferid told him in the fight with Guren. …This might stem from Ferid killing off Mika’s entire family and toying with him in his childhood though, which definitely makes sense for why Mika would want nothing to do with Ferid. This probably also goes for why Mika didn’t want Ferid to touch Yuu.
It seems like they’re evening out the moral grey area for both sides of the conflict. Doping in shounen generally seems to be what the bad side if things does while the heroes rely on their own inner strength/friendship/love/whatever for power ups. (Or maybe not, since shounen also has characters like Chopper from One Piece, who also uses medicine to fight.) At the very least, the humans relying more on the demons that (kind of) threaten to overtake them seems just slightly villainous. Meanwhile, maybe this was part of her game plan for toying with Mika, but Krul seemed kind of nice to him over the whole blood thing. She probably could have forced the human’s blood down Mika’s throat, or watched him die, but instead she gave him the third choice of her own blood. Maybe it’s just part of her own sadistic pleasure having Mika rely on her like that, but her gesture of holding him after kind of seemed… motherly almost.
There’s also the other party (kind of) that doesn’t seem to be vampiric or demonic. It’s ironic how what created such dark looking results in Yuu wasn’t due to the demon inside of him, but instead, what looked like angels. …Presumably, this is where the “Seraph of the End” title comes from. From Guren’s reaction, this is something that the humans did, so this should probably count as another occasion of the human side acting villainous.
Plus there was that rule about not having the vampires take the human’s blood directly, which probably helps avoid situations like Yoichi’s sister’s. It’s still a stretch to say that the vampires could be the good guys here (though the anime will probably work it’s way as close to this scenario as possible, since that would make the plot edgier) since they were kicking children around and such, but maybe that could have just been how the scenario looked from Yuu’s point of view or something. Ferid is an asshat, but Krul seems to have treated Mika okay (kind of). …Not that the vampires all drinking from Yuu’s friends during the battle helped this view at all. At the very least, we can say that the vampires seem to be terrible to humans, but the humans are pretty terrible themselves.
…The gun that shoots tigers is just terrible on a different level.
Plus there’s the point of how Mika seems to be okay with fighting for the vampire’s side now, despite knowing how prejudiced they are against humans. He seems to dislike the humans for brainwashing Yuu or whatever, so Mika has probably had to have listened to some vampire propaganda himself if he thinks that way. He seems to have an okay relationship with Krul too, since he’s her favourite. This might mean in the “favourite toy” sense, or after how she held him, maybe he helps her emotionally too. There was also that reaction that happened with the angels or whatever in Yuu, which does seem suspicious. Mika obviously knows something (as hinted at with how he knows that Yuu shouldn’t kill humans for some reason), but it’s unfortunate that he never actually explained what he knows or why he knows it. Maybe if his reasons were sound, Yuu would have actually gone with Mika.
Surely this is canon by now.
With the appearance of the nobles, the vampires now seem like more of a threat, which is good for power balancing at least. It sure is convenient that the vampires wanted to take everyone as livestock, or else all of Yuu’s friends would have died. Unfortunately the action scenes in episode 11 weren’t as stunning as the ones in previous episodes (which is a shame since the characters probably fought harder here than ever before), but maybe that will be fixed in the blu-rays. Maybe this will serve as a lesson for Yuu about running away from battle when people tell him to. I still hold on to the naive hope that Yuu will one day be able to follow orders. …But probably not any time soon. There’s only one more episode for this half of the show and Yuu seems a bit preoccupied coughing up blood (or whatever that was) to learn life lessons at this time. Plus at this point, I’m more interested in seeing the angst Yuu experiences over Mika being a vampire so hopefully the next episode goes into that. …Though the preview seems to be of Shinoa’s sister.
About Karakuri
University student and the one at Metanorn who's known for wearing glasses. Likes blood, insanity and plot twists, but also plays otome games and adores cute romance anime. It balances out... somehow.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
I’ve seen better/worse. Something like bears with laser eyes shooting out sharks. Or something like that.
Why oh WHY when I see that scene I am reminded of this horror: Boyfriend Slain x Boyfriend Inaho. XO
Speaking of which (or not)… On an aside, there are cute dakimakura of Shinoa… of the cute *questionable* variety.
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BTW, is there an issue with the site?
If you take this post as a timestamp, for the past hour I’ve noted that the comments plugin on the side hasn’t been updating properly. Like mainpage and subpage ones do not match until another forced refresh.
Also, the rss feed is still borken for the past couple of days.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Argh! My Seraph Saturdays for this season are practically at an end yet it doesn’t feel like the season as at an end at all.
So episode 9 delivered the answer to what I’m sure was the most inquired question at the time: “How was Mika still able to grow and age even after being turned into a vampire?”. The answer to that is it’s because he’s a fledgling. Call it a state of limbo where he’s no longer human while at the same time, not being true vampire which he has spent the past 4 years in such a state. And he’ll remain that way until he’s had his first taste of human blood to finish the transition. Explaining why he doesn’t have pointed ears. The eyes retain the blue iris but you can see the pupils have changed.
Krul uses her blood to maintain a hold on Mika and her reasons for doing so will get some light shed on in the show’s second cour for Fall 2015. When some thought is put into it, every time Krul bleeds herself to provide blood on a regular basis, the vampire queen pretty much turned herself into the same thing she’s made the human children become. Before the battle went into full swing, Mika had 10 days’ worth of blood in vials.
POWUH: Meta Team and PreCure Mastah with 9203 comments
Yeah I wondered that about Mika since he was turned at a young age shouldn’t he be a little kid? That is something True Blood always drilled in my head with a few characters, but Seraph is doing things differently and I almost wonder if Mika is special since he was originally human turned vampire? IDK if the other vampires were created the same or where always vampires lol I know confusing xD
Well from my experience with split cour the second half usually fails I’m looking at Aldnoah.Zero and Valrave, but I could be wrong…
I always thought it was bad for vampires to feed off other vampires or is Krul’s blood special since she is the queen? It’s like zombies eating zombies surely it can’t stop their hunger…
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Those two don’t even fit the criteria because they’re original works, not anything based on written or drawn material. I’m already a manga reader and in my opinion, it’s looking good, provided you’re not someone who’s stuck up on what should and what shouldn’t be done.
It’s like a parent/child setting, a mother feeding her child. Mika can live off Krul’s blood because it’s the very thing that turned him into a vampire. And because he refuses to drink human blood because he doesn’t want to truly become one of them, he uses it to stem the cravings.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
BB & I already have gone through this in depth. >_>
I do not want to endure another Shakugan no Shana-like rollercoaster. BB has tried to reassure those concerns.
As for Aldnoah, speak not of it. Have not gotten over the WTF…
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Hahaha!! Episode 11 was intense enough that it’s turning heads. People are starting to condemn the humans and show leniency towards the vampires. Oh, how I love morally gray area developments.
It really had the feeling of desperation when Yuu’s group was subdued by the vampires. What really did it was Mitsuba’s screaming as she resisted to no avail along with Shinoa’s whimpering and Crowley’s slurping as he was drinking her blood. But poor Yoichi. Shinoa, Mitsuba and Kimizuki each got fed on by a noble and the one who preys on him is a dime a dozen vampire underling. His blood must not be sweet enough to warrant nobility.
To me, the law forbidding to drink directly from humans is a form of sophistication that is meant to be aspired to. Some vampires most likely prefer the old fashioned way of enjoying their meals, so they didn’t pass up the opportunity on the battlefield.
Apparently there are comments surfacing with a bad opinion on Guren during the battle. I think some have forgotten what happened in the last episode. He had rough time fighting Mika, then Ferid jumped in, making things harder, then he got stabbed by Mika’s sword. His Cursed Gear did enough to close his wound but it doesn’t bring back vitality. Not only did he have to deal with Ferid again in weakened state, he’s a suffering a severe backlash due to the time limit being reached and the effects of the pill wearing off. It was just not his day.
Yuu’s transformation was not Asuramaru’s doing. The clues point to the orphanage Yuu, Mika and the other children stayed at before the viral outbreak. The day Yuu and Guren met in the first episode, Guren said “One of the test subjects from the Hyakuya Laboratories appeared”. Meaning Guren was tipped off and expecting someone outside. That was no chance encounter. “Hyakuya” is the name of the orphanage, the name the children took upon themselves to symbolize them being a family. The first thing Guren told Yuu was that they were going to use him against the vampires. Note that was before Yuu could explain himself after his ordeal with Ferid slaughtering the other children. Then you have episode 6 when Yuu was getting his Cursed Gear, Asuramaru told him 10% of him was non-human and assumed humans may have been experimenting on him.
POWUH: Meta Resident and LN Informant with 1529 comments
Asuramaru’s a boy/trap, recent fanbook just confirmed this.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
*earsperkup*
Is this true? There is… a trappu?
If so…
*goesintobingemode*
POWUH: Meta Resident and LN Informant with 1529 comments
*pulls up Asuramaru’s skirt*
Yep, perfectly healthy demon-boy/trap right here, DiGi!
He’s all yours!!
PS. Some of the other Back Demon weapons are boys too, despite how feminine they look.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
*adds to the collection*
Jun~ <3
Gasper-kyun <3
Hideyoshi?
POWUH: Meta Team and PreCure Mastah with 9203 comments
Cause that is really important to know for what exactly? Not like Asuramaru is going to be doing a whole lot I look at it more like the inner world in Bleach with characters like Ichigo who barely spend time in that “world” only for a few episodes whenever he needed to learn a new move so again I fail to even understand the requirements on gender LOL
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
Leave me and my trappus alone!
*scrounges up the trappifier ray*
POWUH: Meta Team and PreCure Mastah with 9203 comments
Episode 11 = Basically every Shounen ever due to the high stress of his friends being in danger which in turn forces the MC to go through a dramatic transformation giving him incredible power to save his friends and making him pass out afterwards or stop going on a rampage.
I guess the creators love Bleach because that whole hug Yuu to calm him down is almost the same when Ichigo went crazy during in his fight against Ulquiorra in episode 272
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
The human side warrants questioning for its form of conduct and throughout the show, a lot of poignant things were pointed out by Shinoa. In episode 3, she said the Japanese Imperial Demon Army’s highest ambition is world conquest. Eradicating the vampires, who are in the way, is a means to that end. Plus, the talk about building social connections… Yes, it’s to encourage teamwork but the higher aim is to prompt relationships between the opposite sex so they’d procreate, thus bolstering the army’s numbers. Therefore, Shinoa’s “Now, give birth! Breed! Hurrah for illicit sexual relations!” Even illicit sexual relations get a free pass if it means bringing more boots to the march.
Then there’s the transformed Yuu’s stuttering sentence “Sinners must be annihilated”. Note that the intended is all humans. The Seraph isn’t interested in vampires. In the manga, after Mika kept Shinoa from getting stabbed, the Seraph said “Out of the way, vampire”. This is leading me to believe that for some reason, vampires are able to be exempt from divine punishment and humans are taking all the heat. Anyone who has seen Shiki probably remembers the final episode. When Seishin came back as one of them after dying, he told Sunako while in the burning church that she’s ineligible to be accused or punished for sins because she’s not human.
In all honesty, it looks the humans are getting screwed in every direction. First, a virus that wipes out the majority of the population which might have been caused by other humans, according to the vampires. The remnants are either subjected to becoming livestock or systematically being killed by Horsemen of John as though humanity is being punished for multiplying too much, according to Shinoa. Now the rise of this black winged genocidal angel who intends to kill any human that crosses its path.
POWUH: Meta Team and PreCure Mastah with 9203 comments
Sure lets throw babies at the vampires that will teach them to mess with humanity! Also none of the guys seem interested in that especially with there being no pervy dudes on the main teams xD
Id guess Yuu is a fallen angel hence the BIG ASS BLACK WING like Akeno of High School DxD or a hybrid of all? Human, vampire, demon, fallen angel? Which again I hate sounding like a broken record is just like Ichigo from bleach who is almost EVERYTHING rolled into one.
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You do know they’d let them grow up and train them first, right? Otherwise, that’d be utterly pointless! 😛
I’ve rarely ever watched Bleach. One, maybe two or three episodes altogether? So I wouldn’t notice any similarities unless someone pointed them out.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
I would say that that would be a very inefficient way of raising an army in the view that you’re outnumbered and waiting a decade+ is time you don’t have. Genetic manipulation and accelerated growth would have been my choice.
Having said that, that’d really cut out the nice juicy bits. 😛
In desperate situations, one must be prepared to take even more desperate measures.
POWUH: Meta Resident and LN Informant with 1529 comments
@Blackbriar: Some of the questions you raise are covered in the Seraph light novel prequel, which contains the majority of the world-building. I’ll leave some info as spoilers. (English translation releasing this December!)
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POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
Hmm… Sounds like Cerebrum. 😛
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
That third one is just proving Asuramaru’s point that humans are more dangerous than vampires and demons. They’ll do whatever it takes to realize their ambitions. Most of the time, they’re dark ones.
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I’m hoping it’s a knock down drag out fight between two grey moralities with a third group coming out to address the real threats. It doesn’t seem like either vampire or human are in much right?
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Because it’s me, I sometimes get tempted with wanting the vampires to win. Too many times have I seen humans come out on top that it’s gotten boring. Especially when there are White Knight characters walking about. Shiki was the closest thing to that realization.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
I’m completely fine with grey, morally ambiguous. It reinforces the Jedi saying ‘from a certain point of view’. One side always winning is no fun. Unless they make fun while winning.
I’ll just blindly root for
Team TrappuTeam anyonebutkirito. 😉POWUH: and LOLi Defender with 10997 comments
Well, humans win in monster stories cause that is the reason the stories exist. As humans we are sympathetic to ourselves, and monsters are obstacles to be overcome and defeated. Morality Tale 101, sort of thing. So, our side winning is kinda the point. But in modern times we tell newer stories that take into account “the human monster”. So, is Owari going to be one “obvious” monster (vampires, and the quotes around obvious is on purpose) vs. the other (the emerging human monster), and by that process create a third way the recognizes that? It looks like it might have that basis given most of the 11th episode…If this is the case, then I feel that’s a strong way to go.
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Spammy is siding with the hunams. Ate my provampire post!
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Despite a number of unbearably stuffy western viewers, Seraph is doing well for itself where the likes are concerned. The show is certainly being backed by the Japanese. So much it’s stated as the second most looked forward to series every week and we all know how they have the last say on any anime.
They even had a Seraph themed event some time ago: Seraph of the End Cosplayers Take Tokyo by Storm
After that, I want to see cosplays for Yuuichirou Hyakuya, Shinoa Hiragi, Krul Tepes, Chess Belle and Horn Skuld.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
People who go into Seraph are those that will go in for the distance. I do find it completely annoying when people set double standards for “character building” etc2. In certain shows, people are all praise for it but when it comes to shows like this, when they do it, they start being negative.
*starts ticking the boxes especially the one labelled trappu*
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Agreed. I find that’s the height of hypocrisy. Seraph is the kind of series made for people who are far more sympathetic or at least for people who give it a fighting chance.
There are a handful of things that are irritating but I’ll state two of them out:
First, people who give the impression that an anime has to be an obligatory, grand, artistic masterpiece to be good or at least liked. They pick at every last petty thing to prove a point. “Oh, this is bogged down by” whatever excuse they’ll come up with. You gotta ask when they’d get off their high horse. If they think they can do better than those who already have the go-ahead to make the production, I’d like to see them step up.
Second, are people who annoyingly hang around the thread/post of a show they’re obviously not enjoying. If they don’t like the progress, how the writing or characterizations are going, then they should make their peace, drop the show and move on to something else instead of pointlessly sticking around and spoiling the enjoyment for those who actually like the show and what it’s doing. Especially on the chance the former has been around for more than half the show and apparently his views haven’t changed in the slightest.
Like me, for example, there are a handful of shows I’m not watching this season because they don’t pique my interest in the least. Mainly from their genres or synopsis. I know that if I do watch them, I’d eventually get bored and point out what didn’t appeal to me. To do that every single week, I’d just be disturbing those who like it and bring down the series altogether for them. So I don’t do it as a form of courtesy and respect. That’s why I dropped Punch Line early. If it was going to continue being a random, humorless and uninteresting mess from my point of view, I’m better off cutting my losses by dropping it then and there while leaving those who do like it in peace.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
You dropped pantyline(r)? I would be surprised if not for the fact that the show’s selling point is so blatantly obvious. Sad to say, there is an ecchi-saturation limit as to how much H one can handle.
And I do know which particular shows you’re talking about not watching.
Re: your Point 1. ANN epitomises this. That’s why their reviews and ratings are basically unfit to even be toilet paper. Their variety in reviewers is so… non-existant.
Re: Point 2 – yes, cutting your loses with a strategic withdrawal is always good. Hence my slightly different strategy of preselecting what to watch and picking up others after other people have done the hardwork doing the previews.
As an example: UBW 2nd season was completely as I expected: Interesting but exceedingly drawn out. It would have been better as a 24-26 continuous season rather than a split break. The 3 double length episodes in the first season unbalanced it to the point about 60% of the arc was already covered there. However, breaking it earlier wouldn’t have been a cliffhanger enough. Still, it’s worth watching how they turn a completely static and wordy visual novel into animation.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Exactly! If someone isn’t enjoying a series for its writing, setting or characters, just get it over with and drop it. No one’s got a gun to their head, forcing them to continue and it’s not like they’ll be missed when they do leave it. It’s a matter completely irrelevant to other viewers. So I honestly don’t know who they are trying to impress.
POWUH: Meta Team and Spammy Tamer with 7115 comments
You guys are getting a bit out of hand with this discussion. People are free to comment how they feel about shows. Saying that “If you don’t like any one particular something about a show, you should just stop watching it, and not ever say anything about it” is out of bounds. It doesn’t matter if it’s your favorite show or one you hate. This site isn’t a mutual admiration society.
I think every show everyone watches has something they wish was done differently. Pointing those things out doesn’t mean they don’t enjoy the show. Even if that’s the only thing they say about the show. People talk about things they like, they talk about things they don’t like. And they watch things for whatever reason they want to. Don’t tell them they aren’t allowed to comment about it.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
As if anyone is dictating them. It still doesn’t change the effect it leaves. These are nothing but simple truths being brought up.
While we’re at it, tell me something: How is any of that different from sunk cost fallacy? Something you’re pretty adamant about telling people not to commit. To leave a show behind if they’re not enjoying it instead of forcing themselves to continue with nothing worthwhile at the end.
There’s nothing to gain from watching something you don’t appreciate. That’s the core of the discussion.
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The core of the discussion at this point is the rules. There is no flaming or trolling allowed by those rules. Please desist from using inflammatory language in future comments i.e hypocrite and intimidation.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
Friend BB, I know your position and situation as I’ve been there. We don’t actually like to sugar-coat words but you can choose the battles that you can win.
A reminder that the rules should equally apply to all. Sometimes, not saying anything is the best policy.
POWUH: Meta Team and Spammy Tamer with 7115 comments
I say that people shouldn’t watch something when they are saying things like “I don’t like the show and I don’t know why I’m still watching this show.” That’s wholly different from saying “I don’t like this aspect of the show and wish it was different.” That’s exactly the core of my point there. People comment about the things they like and the things they don’t like. There is no requirement to ‘balance’ comments, and point out a good thing with a bad thing.
And I’ll say it again. The presence of a thing that you don’t like in the show does not mean that you “do not like the show”.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
Spammy save here.
POWUH: and LOLi Defender with 10997 comments
Obvious straw man is obvious….
All of us are equal consumers with equal say in what we watch. Just because we aren’t sitting on a production committee doesn’t mean we don’t get that say, and so long as we follow the rules of the site we can have as much of that say here.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
It’s being realistically pragmatic. And as consumers we can choose to vote with our feet. We don’t have to sit on production committees.
To use a couple of recent examples:
Etotama. Summarised as: Amusing yes. Plotwise flimsy. Standard 2D animation. 3D animation so-so. Watchable, yes if you have no expectations. FYI, I cherrypick which episodes to watch. Sales: Abysmal. To the point, I kinda feel sorry for it.
SB69(A) Summarised as: Intermittently amusing. Plotwise paperthin but equivalent to the other band show. Standard 2D animation. Nicely animated 3D. Surprisingly held onto it despite the fact that there was no expectations and was prepared to drop it. Sales: Sanrio doesn’t care. It’s an literally an ad for the game. Bought the OP/ED cds and considering the Plasmagica cd.
Then there are unnamed shows that defy the repeated logical analyses.
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@BB any way for a private chat?
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This was a fantastic moment. It had a great deal of depth to it. Given what we now know about the Seraph (and that is mostly given over to suspicion, which is a well handled point…nothing like that to bloody the waters of drama ::evil grin::) it’s likely she enjoys having her own pet monster in potential; unless I am missing something about the orphans being test subjects for this. I love the fact they think they humans are monsters for consorting with forces beyond their ability, and she wants the same thing. That’s a damn good power struggle.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Krul in episode 9: “Oh, so you are going to drink it? Then you won’t be able to leave now. Forever and ever, you’re my dog now, Mikaela Hyakuya”
Guren in episode 1 upon his first meeting with Yuu: “One of the test subjects from the Hyakuya Laboratories appeared”
Oh, the beauty of having downloaded episodes ready at any time.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Humans use demons to power their Cursed Gears, right? Krul warned Mika he’d turn into a demon if he doesn’t drink blood at all. Ferid reminded him of the same thing on the battlefield. I leave you and anyone else willing to make the connection.
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@Karakuri: Shiwo Komeyama Ends Bloody Cross Manga Next Month
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Look at the scene again. When Crowley, Chess and Horn arrived, Guren told everyone to keep their formation and retreat to the second defense line. The moment Ferid headed them off and before setting Yuu off, Guren told them all to break up. So Yuu didn’t disobey any orders. He followed both of them. Whether they were convenient for the situation or not.
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Scratch the part about Crowley. It was right after Yuu found out Mika was still alive.
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To know who that is just by looking at the stills, you must have been reading more of the manga chapters while the series was still airing.
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Well, the series has finally come to the middle half. It’s a bit hard for me to understand Mika a little. I’m not sure if he’s brainwashed or not, or if there really is something bad going on here.
This is a series where I really don’t root for anybody other than maybe the two main leads. I don’t really care about the humans enough to care if they win. The vampires are pretty much cartoonishly evil at this point, so I don’t care about them much either. I was liking Guren a little until the last episode, and now I don’t like him anymore. I still like Yu’s group a little, but it’s nothing compared to how I enjoy the relationship between Mika and Yu.
Finally, those two have reunited and it was a rather awkward one with Yu being a little dense compared to the other. However, Yu’s got a bit of an issue going on with him as well. The big black goo monster version of him was interesting, especially when I was told by others that originally in that state, Yu only attacks the humans. It makes you wonder what those guys were up to?
Though even though this casts major doubts on the humans, it really doesn’t create any conflict in me since I really don’t care about either side. Again, my interest is only in Mika and Yu and seeing them reconcile again.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
If I were you, I’d hold off indefinitely on deciding which side is good or bad because nothing is concrete.
Yu is the embodiment of the series’ title in that state, the Seraph of the End. And, yes, humans are its targets, indicated when he said “Sinners must be annihilated”. In the manga, after Mika got stabbed keeping Shinoa from getting killed, Yu said “Out of the way, vampire” then repeated the previous sentence.
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That’s the thing, I don’t really care who’s good or bad. At this point both sides could eradicate each other and I wouldn’t care. As long as Mika and Yu and perhaps their friends survive, I don’t care about the rest.
It’s kind of funny that seraph have 6 wings, but they could even give Yu one full one? I mean, even the original “one-winged angel” Sephiroth had a better wing than that.
But anyway, I heard from quite a few others that they were pretty mad that they had Yu attacking Crowley, since it messed up the idea of what Yu is in that state and made him just a mindless monster instead. I kind of have to agree now that I know what’s really going on.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
That shouldn’t be much of a surprise since Yuu’s demon, Asuramaru, told him it was the 10% non-human part of his body. Though powerful, it’s the minor part of him. Now that it’s surfaced, the statistics will start changing.
That’s odd because I haven’t seen any comments showing displeasure towards Yuu and Crowley’s small bout. Some of what I’ve read were actually content with it. It was the first time the Seraph inside Yuu has ever been freed so I wouldn’t expect it to act on protocol right away. Besides, Crowley was the one who walked up to Yuu. Anyone fresh from under a drastic change like that leaving nothing but impulses would lash out at the first thing they see before straightening themselves out.
POWUH: and Athenaeum Châtelaine with 2212 comments
All the manga readers on Animesuki were pretty annoyed by it. It was how I found out that he was only supposed to attack humans. And I do see where they’re coming from. The Seraph is not some kid novice or anything, it supposed to be some unearthly essence that’s more than human or vampire, and it has one job of punishing sinners. It shouldn’t be making mistakes, it’s beyond that. It’s kind of unusual if it can’t detect what it’s supposed to punish? They were mad that they added the fight just so there could be an action scene, and something about the tone not being a dreary or dire as in the manga.
I don’t know if adding more action even helped the series’ cause either. Many of the anime-only watchers I saw were pretty annoyed that no consequential vampires or humans ended up dying in what was supposed to be an epic battle, even though Yu went into super mode. The manga readers consider it a poor adaptation. And at the point of the season finale, many (both manga and anime-only watchers) consider the series a missed opportunity and are iffy on returning for the next season.)
I think next season will be better now that they got all that intro out of the way. I just hope they get a bigger budget so they don’t have to rely on freeze frames all the time. I really just want Yu, Mika, and his posse to separate from both sides and become that all-important 3rd faction you kind of see in all of these kind of series.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
Whether it was a missed opportunity or not is a debatable matter that remains to be seen because like I said before, the author is heading the adaptation. So all final decisions are his. Personally, I’m not bothered by it because between print and production, the anime for the first cour is 95% accurate.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
O_o
I have bad news BB.
Seraph’s BD sales looks like it bombed. 2k + 3k DVD.
POWUH: and Vampire Lover with 11746 comments
It’s probably too quick to judge. I mean, things have just started and I wouldn’t say gaining nearly 6k is a bomb.
POWUH: Meta Team and Meta-Analyst with 3844 comments
Typically, anime sales are best in the first week and the majority are BDs. This was reverse.
Also. WTF. SB69 is doing waaaaaaay better.